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As we're tuning in more fully to our intuition or those gut
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feelings or those inner knowings, often we have lived in a
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society for so long that has placed the answer outside of us.
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Welcome to We Built This Brand, the podcast where we talk to the
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creators and collaborators that help build brands and provide you with
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practical insight that you can use to help you grow your business.
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Today I'm talking with Bonnie Casamassima, founder of Intuitive by Nature.
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Also host of the podcast, Intuitive by Nature.
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I met Bonnie last year, and we actually consulted with
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her on her podcast and helped her get it launched.
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And that's been a really fun experience helping see it
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go from just a concept through to the actual execution.
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Normally we work more on the editing production side.
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So just being a part of the creative, being part of
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the marketing and the strategy piece was a lot of fun.
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And I really enjoyed this time with Bonnie.
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In this episode, we're going to talk about her business.
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We're going to talk about what Intuitive by Nature is, and
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more importantly, we're going to talk about what intuition
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is, how it works and how it affects business professionals.
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Now, unfortunately, I will say we did have to stop this
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episode a little short, and I wish we could have gone
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longer with her, but it's a really good conversation.
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A lot of depth, and I definitely want to have her back
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on for future episodes so that we can continue to talk
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about intuition and its impact on people and business.
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So, if you're interested in that, please let us know in the comments, please let
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us know anywhere online, we'd love to get feedback and hear from you on that.
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But, honestly, without further ado, here's my
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conversation with Bonnie of Intuitive by Nature.
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Well, Bonnie, welcome to We Built This Brand.
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Oh, thank you so much for having me.
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It's great being here.
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Yeah, we met, I guess, what, last year through some random connections.
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I can't even remember the person who introduced us,
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but yeah, it just kind of happened by happenstance.
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Yeah.
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I think my good friend, JD Sizemore, um, mentioned your name.
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And then I think if I'm trying to remember correctly, we knew each other.
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I spoke on a different topic when you were with the Marketing Association.
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So like back during the pandemic.
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So it was years ago.
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Oh yes, you did.
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I remember that now.
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I know.
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It's like a whole different world.
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It almost feels like.
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Yeah.
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And a whole different time.
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It's like, did that actually happen?
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Or was that just a fever dream you went through?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's so great being here.
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Yeah.
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Thanks so much for having me on.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely thrilled to have you with us today to talk about
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Intuitive by Nature, your business, but also the podcast that you're doing too.
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I'm going to dig into that a little bit today.
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I want to talk about the business, how you got there.
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This is a really unique business.
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It's not something you see a lot of other people doing.
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So I'm really curious to learn more about that and then
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learn more about the podcast that you have now too, so...
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With that said, let's, let's dive into it
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and let's just start back at the beginning.
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How did this business come about?
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I think the, in a nutshell, I had spent the last decade in the
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corporate world and in research within academia as a professor of
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interior architecture, but focusing on the research side of things.
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And along the journey, I started meditating for
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stress reduction and was working 60, 70 hours a week.
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And long story short, something about the meditation just
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felt really right to me, and I kept showing up to it.
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And the more that I deepened into a meditation practice where I was slowing
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everything else down, um, I had my own intuitive awakening experience.
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And being from the analytical realm of research and corporate
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America before that, it was quite the conflict for me.
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And it just, you know, trying to kind of understand what this was
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and what is intuition, what's Are other people experiencing this?
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Etc.
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So that led me down my own personal journey of intuition and trying to
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understand what this awakening was, and for me, I started receiving really
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strong visuals in my mind's eye in a meditative state, um, which turns out a
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lot of people experience, which is really exciting to be in that community.
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But, all of this to say, I was at this crossroads in my life.
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Am I a researcher and professor or am I a highly sensitive intuitive?
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And a good friend of mine said, well, "Bonnie, why not both?"
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[laughs] And I led a research project where I had the honor of
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interviewing 50 highly sensitive intuitives, empaths, and mediums from
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around the world on their journey, connecting with their intuition.
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And the findings from that, which I know we'll get into a little bit,
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were really, they were really life changing for me, and it created
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a pretty big pivot for me and the work that I'm honored to do.
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It's supporting people in connecting with
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their own intuition for their everyday lives.
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It's, had you asked me 10 years ago, this is where I'd be today.
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I might not have believed you, but it's so
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aligned, and it's incredible being here.
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So that's why I'm honored to be here today with it.
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And what's really neat about intuition is that, you know, we had, I had
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people that were doctors and CPAs and nurses and therapists and psychiatrists
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who all had a deep connection with their intuition throughout the research.
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And I guess what the fire on my belly is today is how do we bring
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this really, um, powerful inner knowing into our everyday experiences?
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And our leadership and our parenting and our friendships, you name it.
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So that's a little bit about the journey so far.
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That's really fascinating.
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One of the things that really interested me in what you're doing
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is that fact that it's not just intuition that you're focused on.
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You actually have data to back it up.
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You have research, you have a bit of a background on it.
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As someone who would consider themselves probably on that, I don't know
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if there's a scale or whatever, but probably somewhere on that intuition
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scale, like personally, I, I just, I'm fascinated by learning more about it.
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You know, how could I use it better?
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How could I leverage my own instincts?
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If that's all it is, I'm sure it's more than that,
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but all those things I want to learn more about.
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So I'm excited that, that we get to have this conversation today.
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So when you created Intuitive by Nature, like
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what problem does the business exactly solve?
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Like what, who are you helping through this company?
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A wide range of people, often those that are starting to come
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in a deeper way into their inner knowing or their intuition.
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Maybe they're receiving visuals in their mind's eye or having
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incredibly vivid dreams or have this deep, deep gut knowing that
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can't explain why, it's often people that are wanting to understand
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that more fully and how can they tune into that into their everyday.
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I want to pause here.
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I realize we're using a word that you and I talk about a
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lot, but intuition might be a newer one for some people.
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And a way I like to explain intuition is, you know, that, that gut
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feeling that you feel when you meet somebody for the first time,
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and you can't explain why, but you're just really drawn to them
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and you just want to be around them and maybe you're supposed to
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partner with them on a business or date them, whatever, right?
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There's that feeling.
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Like, have you ever felt that feeling before?
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It was like, Yeah, you can't explain why, but you just know.
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Or on the flip side of that, where you meet someone and
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maybe they have all these, um, red flags that you feel, and
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you're just like, "Oh, I just shouldn't be around them."
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So maybe, I mean, I definitely have experienced this,
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you go ahead and just date them for five years anyway.
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I was about to say, most of those are ones
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I look back on and I'm like, I knew it.
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I felt it the whole time.
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Why didn't I act on that?
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Absolutely.
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So that is such a beautiful example of our intuition.
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We can look at it as our inner knowing, our internal
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guidance system, a deeply sacred connection that there's
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a lot of research around this within quantum physics.
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We could dive into all that, but really, I think
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many of us have probably felt these moments.
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I can't explain why, but your intuition knew all along, right?
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A lot of learnings in those multiple years of partnerships,
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but maybe we'll trust that intuition so we can.
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We can pivot a little bit more quickly.
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So then your company is helping people hone
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these skills and figure this stuff out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Helping to create a community around it and have conversations around it.
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No, I'm honored to work with professionals from all walks of life.
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So absolutely.
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Supporting people through workshops.
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through one-on-one mentoring and through sharing the research
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through the podcast really to help to bring this out into the world.
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Yeah.
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So question for you, how does, how do you help?
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Like, or do you help businesses directly or
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is it mostly just individuals you work with?
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Yeah, both.
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For example, with businesses, most often we
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would align through speaking engagements.
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So for example, I shared a conversation with the Let Her Speak community.
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It's a local phenomenal community by Catherine Porth
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here in Knoxville, and went in and talked about how are
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you tuning into intuition for your heart led leadership.
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Another example is sharing a similar conversation with a large organization
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for their, um, for their team building and community building activities.
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So, um, so that would be an example.
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We can go into many, but that's one of them.
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I stumbled across an author a few years ago called Carol, named Carol Sanford.
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I don't know if you've heard of her or not.
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Yep.
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And I was fascinated by the work that she had done
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because the book I had read was No More Feedback.
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And there, very briefly, I kind of went through this phase of
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like, maybe I don't need to give feedback to my team anymore.
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Maybe we can all just, you know, learn, learn these processes and improve as
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a team and that'll actually make, you know, the team's mental health better.
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And I, I think that, uh, I learned that's not the way to do it.
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I had a lot of pushback from the team, and a lot of people got
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frustrated because they were like, not giving me enough feedback.
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And I was like, well, we're supposed to be trying this and they're like, no.
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[laughs] I do think I took from that, you know, like the, and
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she talks more about like the collective conscious and some other
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stuff that, you know, that I, um, I understand, but it also takes
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everybody being on board with that, which can be its own journey
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to begin with, because you've got to find those people to do it.
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But when I think about intuition, I guess that's what comes to mind
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is that's kind of where my journey started with all this and how I
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got curious about the work that you're doing and everything else.
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So, so yeah, I just found that fascinating.
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Didn't know if you'd heard it or not.
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So
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Yeah, super fascinating, yet familiar with
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her work and it's beautiful, beautiful work.
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One of the things that's really interesting, you know, when we're
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starting to tune into our intuition and maybe deepen our connection
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with our intuition, because again, what we found in the research,
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um, and I want to have a huge shout out to Celeste Page Sample.
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She is pivotal on helping with the data analysis and the co-host on the podcast.
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So hello, Celeste.
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So grateful for her, and as we're tuning in more fully to our
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intuition or those gut feelings or those inner-knowings, right?
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Often we have lived in a society for so long
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that has placed the answer outside of us.
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So maybe parent to child, teacher to students, boss to employee, right?
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So there's a lot of social conditioning and a lot of kind
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of often unpacking that we work through as we're tuning
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in and trusting those knowings a little more fully.
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You know, maybe when you're going and you're hiring
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people, obviously we always want to check our biases.
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We always want to tune into that, but really learning to trust.
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That inner-decision making can be a little bit of a journey.
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And often we see balancing it with more of a kind of gradual
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approach versus, okay, all the feedback to no feedback.
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Let's start with all the feedback.
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Okay.
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Now a little bit more self-trust and then kind of weaning
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off of that tends to be a really successful model.
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More successful than what I was doing.
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But I think that's our opportunities.
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We get to try it out.
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You know, it feels aligned.
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Let's do that.
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Let's learn from that.
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Let's pivot a little bit and.
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Keep growing.
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It's definitely an interesting concept, and I'd love to continue to
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explore it because I think even if you're not like full in on all of
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what Sanford talks about or even the stuff about intuition, like there's
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something to people being responsible for themselves and making decisions
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for themselves and being able to understand and come to the conclusions
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on their own that helps build a stronger business and stronger team.
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that's, that's what I found that was really powerful about it and why I was
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hoping that I could do better with it, but you know, we all live and learn.
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So you've mentioned the podcast, and I'm really curious to know
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what, what is the purpose of your podcast, Intuitive by Nature?
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Well Chris, I'm so glad you asked.
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[laughs] The podcast, uh, we're so excited to share it with the
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world, and it's a one season, it's six episodes, and it's all around
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unpacking the findings from the research projects where I interviewed
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50 highly sensitive intuitives and mediums from around the world.
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So we're, we're breaking in bite-sized pieces, Celeste Page Sample
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and I are talking through it, sharing some of our own personal
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experiences, and really pulling out the patterns that we found.
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One thing that's really, I think, helpful to note for the research
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project is it followed what's called a "Review Board Approved
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Protocol," and it used what's called Grounded Theory Research, which
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is basically, it's a very rigorous approach, and we're looking at
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people's lived experiences first by asking them open-ended questions.
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And then from that, we look and see, you know, of these 50, 50 interviews,
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lots and lots of pages, scripts, are there any patterns that are emerging?
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Um, and obviously we're talking about the podcast, so plot twists,
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patterns did emerge, but that's what the podcast is all about.
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What might some of those patterns be?
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I don't want to ruin the podcast.
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You know, I want people to go listen to that, but like, what, what
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are some highlights from that that you found really interesting?
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was that, I'm going to say it was 96% of people,
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so almost everybody, which is very rare in the research world,
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shared that they felt strongly that we all are intuitive.
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It comes in many different ways for people, but they felt very strongly that we
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all have the opportunity to connect with this more fully should it feel aligned.
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shared over and over and over again the more they
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developed an intentional relationship with their intuition.
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intuitive abilities, I can tune into them more fully.
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Let me build a relationship with them.
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They shared over and over how it added immeasurably to their quality of life.
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They shared how it reduced their stress.
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It helped them to be stronger, more aligned parents.
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It helped them to be more confident in their decision
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making as leaders, just like over and over and over again.
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That was something that, again, was one of those like life changes,
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like, wow, we need to start talking about this more and more.
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powerful was how people shared that intuition comes in many forms.
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People described really vivid dreams.
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People described having visuals either in meditation or with
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their eyes open, maybe seeing ancestors that have passed away.
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information that wasn't quote unquote physically in the room.
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So again, a wide range.
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What was really important with that is that when people felt deeply connected
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with that intuitive information or those downloads or that additional
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insight, sensory information, They felt incredibly grounded in their body.
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They felt incredibly present in their body.
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We always want to hold so much space for mental well being.
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So yeah, it was really, it was really powerful.
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Those are some of the top ones.
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That's, that's really cool.
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You mentioned people finding out about
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intuition in their own way, and I was curious.
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Listening to the podcast and one of the things that struck me was talking
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about like the religious aspect because I, I come from a Christian background.
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I'm, I would consider myself still a Christian today.
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they're going to go, "Oh, that's all the woo stuff," and everything.
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been speaking to me," they go, "Oh yeah.
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per se, but there is something to like, listening to what you've been told.
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Listening to those things that's really powerful, and it's just
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interesting how people interpret it differently in their own lives.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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really resonate with is, follow what feels aligned and true for you.
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If it feels deeply grounded, if it feels very safe to you.
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I don't have it in front of me, but there's a saying
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that was going around, it was, um, "Intuition:
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Those that follow a religion call it God.
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Spiritualists, maybe call it the universe.
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Scientists call it the placebo effects."
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And it went down this whole list.
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what the title is, but nobody's arguing its existence."
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[unitelligble] And for me, I love that so much because it holds
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so much space for, you know, whatever this, use the language that
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resonates for you, and trust that deep knowing and inner wisdom.
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It's powerfully within us and through us is what we found in the research.
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So I love that you're bringing that up.
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I just find that interesting.
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And I know being in the South, we've got a lot of folks out there that
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are church-goers and go, "Oh, what's the importance of this to me?"
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And you know, all that.
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So I think it's, it's interesting to see how speaking for my own
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life, like there are times where I'm like, well, I should have.
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Listen to God.
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I should have followed these things, and I would have been on this better path.
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Or you know, I heard these things, and I
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acted on it, and things happened as a result.
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And it's, it's a hard thing, and this is probably getting a little
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bit off topic, but it's a hard thing like knowing what's really like
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something say God is telling you to do versus something that your own
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mind and your own brain is telling you to do, if that makes sense.
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So I think there might be a difference
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there, but that's a whole other conversation.
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But, but there's, there's a lot Being able to find
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and listen to that small, still voice, if you will.
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And Chris, you just hit the nail on the head.
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What we found in the research is that's one of
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the biggest questions is like, how do I decipher?
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Is this my intuition speaking or my organization of religion and faith?
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Or is it my ego talking, right?
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And, or is it my stress or anxiety symptoms talking?
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shared over and over again is, when it was an intuitive information,
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intuitive insight, intuitive download, a clear knowing, it felt
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very calm, very grounded, very serene, almost, in their bodies.
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When it was maybe a more stress response or anxiety
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symptom response, it felt very tight, very, very rapid.
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It was repeating the message over and over and over again, which can
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often happen in our beautiful analytical minds, but sometimes that
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can take the lead when we put so much priority on it as a society.
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stillness that you mentioned, that kind of that knowing.
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talked about using their body almost as that antenna.
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Do I feel grounded?
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Does my heart rate start to slow?
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Does it start to feel much calmer with it?
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It connects with our neurological pathways as well, which we can get
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into, but the, I guess the synthesis of it is the more that we're able
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to find those moments of stillness, maybe it comes in meditation or
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gardening or creating art, the more we're really allowing ourselves, our
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nervous systems to downregulate, to drop into those moments of presence.
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And what's happening on a neurological level often is we're shifting out
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of those beta brainwaves, which is what we're using when we're looking at
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spreadsheets often, and shifting into our alpha or theta, uh, the deepest
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level brainwaves, what we're seeing with other research, not the research
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that we conducted, well, in addition to the research that we conducted, is
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that when we're in those alpha and theta brainwaves, so we can think about it,
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those moments where we feel really present, we feel really calm and grounded.
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That's when our intuitive information can be understood much more clearly.
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So, it's really exciting.
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We can start to really kind of peel back and decipher, okay, what is this?
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How do we tune into it?
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And then how do we start to use it in our everyday lives?
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It's, it's amazing.
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I think it's amazing.
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I, I think that's really cool and you know, I was a part of a ministry for
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about three years where it was kind of like a three year journey that you
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committed to, and it was the Christian version of what you're talking about.
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It was learning to listen to God.
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Get out in nature or do, do what, what you can to find space, to
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find peace, to be able to listen and to find those quiet moments.
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So that's, as you're saying that, I'm kind of like, I've done that.
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Like, [laughs] that's, that's kind of cool.
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Yeah, it is.
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I think what's so exciting about the research
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findings is how these were everyday experiences.
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And most often, I mean, very profound experiences that people shared.
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And most often I'm like, wait a second,
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I- plot twist, I'm also intuitive, right?
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Like, how could we tune it out more fully?
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What a beautiful experience.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, it truly was on so many levels and I'd be remiss if I didn't
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say HumblePod probably wouldn't exist if it wasn't for that.
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So I'll, I'll leave it at that.
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Can I speak to that?
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And Chris, I think that, I think that in
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here, I'm like getting so giddy about it.
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I think that is the why of all this.
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Whatever language resonates with you, use it.
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If it's God, if it's universe, if it's intuition.
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Use that.
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And I feel like it's, it's our opportunity to tune into this
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deep guidance that we have to follow our heart led purpose.
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And I feel very strongly that we as humans are unlimited if we let ourselves be.
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I get in my own way all the time.
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And I feel like our intuition is such a powerful guide in
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staying in that alignment or expanding into that alignment.
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It's really energizing.
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Yeah.
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So thanks for
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Your welcome.
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Thank you.
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Well, what, what is next?
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So you've got six episodes, which by the way, if you
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haven't already, you should go listen to the podcast.
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I think you've got four or three, three live right now, plus the trailer.
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So you, everybody should go listen to that.
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Uh, by the time this is out, there's a good chance
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that y'all will have, um, released everything.
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But yeah, go listen, check it out.
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We'll have links in the show notes to that.
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But what's the future of Intuitive by Nature?
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You said this is just one season for the podcast.
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What about the business?
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You've done the research.
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Are you doing more research?
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Are you expanding into other areas?
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What's, what's next for you?
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Um, now that we have the foundation with the research, we're
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really excited to share this with the world, [laughs] right?
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So we're looking at a second season for Intuitive by Nature.
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And that's going to be, now that we have the research foundation laid,
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um, the second season is going to focus more on conversations like this.
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Like, how are people using this sometimes
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ethereal concept in their everyday world, right?
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Leadership, parenting, et cetera.
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That's one piece.
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And the other piece is really sharing this through, um, through workshops,
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through speaking engagements, through immersive experiences to bring
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this to people, um, wherever they are in their journey and to, to
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create a really strong sense of community and conversation around it.
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Just like this one right here.
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Well, that's, that's great.
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We always wrap up.
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I mean, this is a marketing branding podcast.
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We always wrap up with asking the question,
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what brand do you admire the most right now?
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So what does that for you?
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Yeah, I love this question.
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And to come to mind, I'm a huge fan of Brené Brown which I can, I can see her
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as a brand, but she's a social scientist who's researched around vulnerability,
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and her blend of bringing humanness to this rigor of research is phenomenal.
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And then a second one is Dr.
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Joe Dispenza, who talks a lot about what's happening on a
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neurological level with meditative states and connecting
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into our expanded consciousness, our expanded potential.
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So those two, I think what I'm inspired by both of those
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is their ability to take this Intense amount of data and
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pull it into really accessible conversations with that.
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So very inspired by that and ultimately to support people in their life
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journey to be the most amazing version of themselves that they can be.
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And it's already inside of them.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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Brené Brown.
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We've- I've definitely heard her be an inspiration for folks,
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um, throughout the years that we've been doing podcast production
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work because she has a good podcast and obviously the content
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she creates has inspired some of the shows that we've produced.
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So, Bonnie, thank you so much for coming on.
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I feel like we could keep talking for forever.
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Um, unfortunately today, as you know, I have a hard stop, but, you know,
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where can people connect with you and find out more about Intuitive by Nature?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, first of all, Chris, it's been so wonderful
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being here with you and hello to all of your listeners.
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It's been wonderful being together.
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You can check out the podcast, it's intuitivebynature.com/podcast.
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You can also find us on Instagram, but intuitivebynature.com
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is gonna be where the main landing page of everything is.
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Great.
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Well, Bonnie, thank you so much for coming on today.
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Of course.
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Thanks so much for having me.
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Thanks for checking out this episode of We Build This Brand.
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Don't forget to like, follow, and subscribe on your player of choice.
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And also check out our website at webuildthisbrand.com.
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If you liked this episode, please give it a five star review and be sure
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